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for president was a senator from the same state, john kerry of massachusetts. if he had won the presidential election that year, his senate seat would have become open. so the governor of massachusetts, the republican, mitt romney, would have been able to appoint somebody to fill john kerry's senate seat. the mts legislature totally dominated by democrats was cognizant that the governor would probably pick a republican to fill the seat if kerry got elected president. so the massachusetts state legislature decide d to change the law. they changed the law so that only a special election could fill a vacant seat. until then, the seat would have to be empty. mitt romney tried to veto that new law. but the legislature overrode his veto, thereby stripping mitt romney of his power to choose a replacement. that became a mute point because john kerry didn't win so he stayed on as senator. but then fast forward fife years. 2009. new president barack obama, the country embroiled in a big debate over national health reform. those against it were against it to the point of rage. and those wo who wanted i
is massachusetts senator, john kerry. if somehow susan rice is disqualified from becoming secretary of state and president obama then picks john kerry instead, guess what happens in the united states senate? massachusetts suddenly has an open u.s. senate seat as well as a certain republican senator from that state who is basically just sitting around doing nothing since he just lost his re-election effort. i know this sounds crazy. i'm fully aware of that fact. that's kind of part of the point. honestly, it is getting harder and harder to find a rational explanation forle all of this republican hand ringing. it has been been going on. there are legitimate questions to ask about what happened during that attack on our consulate in libya. those questions deserve answers. they are being investigated. there also may be legitimate questions to ask about susan rice as a potential secretary of state. that's not what's going on. there is this add dimension to what's going on right now that is really strange. >> i just believe that she has actually disqualified herself to be secretary of state. if th
, though, alex, was susan collins basically endorsing john kerry. that has been all the chatter from republicans. john kerry would sail through here. some democrats say, the reason why they have the chatter about john kerry, they want to get scott brown elected in a special election. if john kerry is nominated they could lose a senate seat. a lot of other democrats that say look, president obama should not waste his political capital on susan rice. we have a fiscal cliff, we want to do immigration reform. why have this nasty fight. john kerry has been a loyal deputy to president obama. let him get through here. john kerry gave him the speaking role at the '04 convention, john kerry endorsed him after he lost new hampshire in 2008. john kerry has been loyal. it's his turn. that's the interesting subplot along with the gop attacks on susan rice, not only for how she dealt with benghazi but now susan collins a moderate opening up about her time in the clinton administration back in the late '90s. >> intrigue on capitol hill, mckay. i thought it was because the gop loved john kerry, thou
now to debate the issue are the news editor at townhall.com, and former aide to senator john kerry is with us. katy, i'm generally extremely supportive of law enforcement. i want them successful in their job to keep our streets safe, and offense n offense no i havee everybody's text and e-mails for two years, that will help them. if we save and record everybody's phone conversations, that will help a lot. if we video tape everybody 24 hours a day, that's going to help, but where does the line get drawn? >> exactly. where does the line get drawn? this is equivalent to putting a gps in everyone's car and seeing where they go for two years, to make everyone wear a recording device and record conversations for two years. i'm also very supportive of local law enforcement and law enforcement in general. essentially what they're doing is asking for everyone in the country to be turned into suspects before they have any evidence that they've committed a crime. in my book, that's a bit of a government overreach and opening the door right for more tierney into people's personal and private l
to it -- >> going to say it's brand, it's about brand. >> at that moment with mccain and john kerry because of foreign relations issue and this is the way mccain sort of gigged john kerry and kerry teased him back. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> thank you very much, mr. president. >> and there was a lot of joking after that. a lot of laughing. >> we should have showed. >> two of them have been close. people forget that the vietnam caucus, as strained as things have gotten in washington. >> they worked hard on that. >> what remains of it. >> with kerry and jack reed and the guys that are left, they're all -- they all look out for each other. >> where do you think it stands? there are some suggesting the president should let the susan rice issue quiet down and let her withdraw. >> there are aides in the white house a little frustrated saying hey, mr. president, you got to make a decision. the fact of the matter he hasn't made a decision between susan rice or john kerry. the argument being made, they're sort of hanging in the wind. john kerry has been very -- he has really kept a lo
and with john kerry mentioned the senator from massachusetts as the alternative to susan rice, would he be any better. >> i'm surprised that the president is pushing so hard from here. quite apart from whether she was politicizing events she shouldn't have been, she has a reputation of not being a very good diplomate n that job you have to be able to persuade people to come on your side and apparently she tends to. >> rough edges. >> insult people and she's a little bit abrasive, but, john kerry is also very troubling. his track record over the years, not as a diplomate. he might be very good at going to dinners and so forth, but, you know, for example, in latin america, when he ran for president, he was backed by thomas boardhey a former in nicaragua and, another's involvement in the office in honduras were bringing a friend of chavez back to honduras and that's cost a lot of-- >> and the case for susan rice, she's better than john kerry. (laughter) >> do you think that the president is going to nominate susan rice and do you think if he does that she'll get through? >> i expect yes on both
it saying: >> in fact, john kerry's name has come up. susan collins said he would be easily confirmed. senator baroso backed him. even john mccain, leading the charge against rice had high praise for john kerry on fox news yesterday. >> john kerry came within a whisker of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor but i'd love to hear him make his case, but i don't have anything in his background like this tragedy in again gassy that would make me really want to carefully examine the whole situation. >> of course it doesn't hurt that if kerry took the job it would open up a senate seat that could go to republican scott brown who just lost his seat to elizabeth warren. joining me now to talk about the wrangling in washington and on the ground in massachusetts is he is square magazine political reporter charlie pierce. welcome back inside the war room. >> good evening governor, just what we here in massachusetts need another reason to think we're the center of the universe. >> well you are the center of your own universe. what does is pour tend that these mode
the debates. [applause] >> john kerry is ready to go. john kerry john kerry john kerry. >> stephanie: are they on staff of scott brown for senate? what, really, they are not too obvious? we have all have an idea. >> we're all wearing pink leather shorts. >> stephanie: funny that. >> and i like the new white house hash tag, it's my 2 k a typical middle class family of form will see taxes rice $2,200 if congress does not act and now we're seeing caving on republicans. >> they're launching their own hash tag for twitter, it's "my two sticks" and you can rub them together if you're cold in the winter. [ magic juan music ] wand music ] >> so the first cracks on the republican stance on higher tax rates. john boner may make it in time for christmas. we'll see. do you remember when i asked for that so i could go like this, and you would play that. ♪ grandma got run over ♪ by john boehner ♪ lost her medicare ♪ on christmas eve ♪ she don't deserve ♪ no healthcare ♪ nor medicaid ♪ or social security ♪ he'd been drinking ♪ too much eggnog ♪ and we begged him not ♪ to go
cain lost or john kerry lost they had day jobs to go back to on the hill so thermometer automatically and instantly involved in the debate pep isn't but not showing any inclinton acceleration to be even though we're in a crisis at this moment, particularly the republican party is crying out for some sort of leadership to have somebody to move people along to a compromise. he conceivably could be that man but he seems to be very much looking intern fiscally. >> it's a small sliver of people alive that can understand exactly what the governor is going through now. but certainly not within the heightened style of election process that we go through now. one romney adviser compared romney with al gore's weight gain and beard after the election saying that most likely will not be happening in terms of letting his discipline go about his lifestyle. however, is it more a choice of romney not be involved with the republican party sore at any time fact that the roeb party has pretty much given him the heisman and pushed him away because of the comments he made since the election, doubling down
is going to have a pretty easy sail through the confirmation, john kerry or somebody like that. it's unusual somebody we don't know is going to be nominated is working the u.s. senate this hard. is this an ultimate political genius move by the obama white house? are they thinking they're going to take this into a fight for senate confirmation? >> day two of this pr campaign to face the critics on the hill. senator corker is who we're going to have the opportunity to -- rice will have the opportunity to meet with him at noon. in advance of today's meeting, "she always delivers the party line, the company line, whatever the talking points are." is this an example, though, of rice facing critics -- explain the type of diplomacy she would need to display if she's going to go into negotiations with china? it's different than, you know, facing your foes on the hill when you're facing those from a different country. >> right. i think frankly it's inexplicable on the republican side. i do think this is a prelude probably to rice being nominated. and i really don't see how the republicans w
cain referring to john kerry in case he was -- in the event he was nominated as secretary of state and susan collins in addition to the comments we have played said she would support john kerry as secretary of state. how much is about that and not about benghazi? >> i don't know what it's about. i'm not aware of evidence this suggesting that ambassador rice manipulated any data for a political purpose. what i am aware of and this is based on reporting of sources and "wall street street," is that the intelligence provided to the president as part of his pdb said what she repeated on national television and arguably it's the same intelligence that would have been provided to governor romney receiving intelligence briefings in the final stages of the campaign and perhaps i have believed that's why he stayed away from the issue in the final debate. so why aren't they saying, we need more information about the cia? we need to know where was the intelligence failure on the part of cia. that seems to me a very reasonable question as opposed to holding responsible she who went on and repeated what t
of state job for john kerry, so if they then reopen a massachusetts senate seat r for scott brown. is that your sense of the game that's being played? >> i have no idea. you are much more mcvavalian thinking than 1 am. >>> coming up, we'll find out about ari melber and guess who's coming to dinner? mitt romney's last chance to get into the white house is coming up. [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esurance. their coverage counselor tool helps you choose the right coverage for you at a great price. [ stomach growls ] without feeling queasy. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. >>> what could they have to talk about? maybe they can reminisce about their days at harvard law school where the president was president of the law review and mitt romney wasn't. mitt romney's trip to the white house tomorrow where bar
, john kerry and john mccain are combat veterans who aspired to the white house. dole's own party failed him. five republican votes short of the 66 needed. conservatives say countries like china with a poor human human rights record would get a pass. >> what it does do is allow their leaders to falsely present themselves as forward leaning on disabled rights. >> no. >> reporter: and for some no votes, politics. the risk of a gop primary challenge got in the way. >> to vote for anything that is even perceived to be granting the u.n. power is a dangerous game for republican senator. because the urn is so unpopular among the republican base, they could be asking for a challenge for fr their ideological right come 2014. >> and that was kelly o'donnell reporting. >>> now to the pre-nomination fight over the next secretary of state. the president says he has not made a decision yet, but he insistses continued criticism of u.n. ambassador susan rice will not affect his choice. >> have republicans' attacks against susan rice sort of boxed you into a corner, would it look like a sign of weakness
's national elite school, she was controversial. she battled for democrats, including john kerry, now her rival to become secretary of state. in bill clinton's cabinet, she was in charge of african policy, including controversial decisions on sudan , she was blamed for another security failure, the bombings 14 years ago and politics can be personal. in the 2008 campaign, she made fun of john mccain. for wearing a flap jacket on a baghdad walking tour, while claiming iraq was safer and tonight, hillary clinton praised rice. still, some democrats argue nominating rice would prolong the benghazi controversy, while john kerry could be easily confirmed. and tonight other officials indicate a republican, former senator, chuck hagel, is also being vetted for a job >>> and also in washington tonight, the gop is dealing with the issue of optics and diversity in politics, getting a lot of coverage of the congressional committee chair selected thus far for the next congress. they are all white males, the leadership points out they were all selected for a reason, including seniority. the democrats po
,000 question. could the answer be ambassador susan rice or maybe senator john kerry? we'll look at the long and short list next. my doctor told me calcium is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. >>> one of the big decisions president obama must make is who will replace secretary of state hillary clinton. john kerry's name is floating around. there's talk of michael bloomberg or bill clinton. dana millbank is a "washington post" columnist. the president is standing firm by rice. we remember the stern words he gave against the senators who were targeting her. take a listen. >> for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> since then a couple of other senators besides mccain and graham have spoken out saying rice misled the public. when the american ambassador and three others were killed in the attack
've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john kerry, so if they then reopen a massachusetts senate seat r for scott brown. is that your sense of the game that's being played? >> i have no idea. you are much more mcvalue yan thinking than am. >>> coming up, we'll find out about ari melber and guess who's coming to dinner? mitt romney's last chance to get into the white house is coming up. >>> what could they have to talk about? maybe they can reminisce about their days at harvard law coschl where the president was president of the law review and mitt romney wasn't. mitt romney's trip to the white house tomorrow where barack obama is president and mitt romney isn't. that's coming up with jonathan capehart and richard wolffe and the supreme court comes down on the side of the people and against bad cops. that's coming up. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly.
rice's nomination. she did say that john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed. tell us why that might not quite be what republicans think it is. >> one issue is that it's senator john kerry becomes secretary of state john kerry and suddenly there's a special election in new jersey and some people were thinking about the opportunity for republicans. >> scott brown. >> scott brown is very popular and that's one angle. conservatives also have policy priorities, and one thing we have noticed is that while senator collins has gone one way, criticizing susan rice. i suspect that there are also people that are skeptical that senator kerry shares that position. >> he's more dovish than rice. >> a lot of folks including bill crystal who actually care about these things, are saying wait a second, republicans, susan rice might be a better pick than john kerry. >> he was very careful and he's been careful to not say he's for or against susan rice but he did have a warning for the president. here he is. >> i would just ask that the president step away from all the
. >> your office mate there chuck todd says expect senator john kerry to be offered the top spot at defense if rice gets the nomination for state. but the senator's aides have said he is not interested in running the pentagon at all. if asked, do you think john kerry turns down that offer? >> i doubt that he would turn down that offer. everything that we're hearing is that he would be eager to serve in a second term administration. it would be being secretary of defense is one of the highest profile positions. and of course if somehow susan rice falters or isn't nominated, john kerry is there as the backup. and i will say this during the whole rice kerr flufl, john kerry has been a good soldier. he's even backed up susan rice. and he said and done all the right things. i wouldn't be surprised if the white house has also noticed that. >> it really does have to be an awkward position. all right. mark murray, thank you, sir. >>> we're watching developments in egypt, as well, where tens of thousands of protesters have been jamming cairo's tahrir square for hours now. they denouncing president m
will be dominated. >> i -- i think she will be nominated. abc correspondent, jake tapper. john kerry may be the alternative pick for secretary of state. but is he also a teen idol? viewfinder is coming up next. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks or jumping into the market he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what happens which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense from td ameritrade. >> eliot: coming up, the less fortunate need our help. and some think that includes goldman sachs. but first, the empire state building light show, the john kerry fan club and the winners and losers in the middle east. when it doesn't fit anywhere else, we put it in the viewfinder. >> broadway wasn't the only place to catch a good show last night. the empire state building put on its first ever light show.
as a moderate, discussing the possibility of a john kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raised the 1998 bombings, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania when susan rice was the assistant secretary for african affairs in the bill clinton administration in basically in the state department back then and what was her responsibility over that? susan collins said we hadn't learned the lessons and she had troubling questions about that. she asked susan rice about it and susan rice said she would have to refresh her memory. >> i think the benghazi controversy opened the door to other senators, other critics of susan rice, to raise questions, including about her tenure when she was assistant secretary of state for african affairs and there is -- there has been criticism of her role there. i mean in some ways i think susan collins' criticism has more p
whether he will select rice or massachusetts senator, john kerry. but they say the clock is ticking and a nominee might be announced as early as next week. wow. that's -- i mean that's a tease, huh? but here's the question. here's my question. ryan, i will ask you this first. are republicans going to spend the political capital they must to dead the susan rice nomination? i'll read from the hilling privately come republicans prefer to avoid a bitter political fight over rice, an african-american woman viewed as competent. an early signal na the gop conference will not go to the mat to thwart a rice normal nation. >> depends how badly they want john kerry out of the senate. do we want this terribly ugly fight? you know against a popular nominee or do we want a deal with john kerry and not get scott brown in again? the whole thing is insane. susan collins, reached back to 1998 to find another example of an intelligence failure. you have to go all the way to 1998? because if you stop along the way -- >> may i add, susan rice may not be implicated in. there are a set of talking points a
clinton. would you support her? >> i would be very hard pressed. >> if it were john kerry? >> he became within a whisper of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor but, i would love to hear him make his case. but i don't have anything in his background like this tragedy in benghazi, that would make me really want to make me carefully examine the situation. >> if president obama nominating john kerry in stead of susan rice, massachusetts would hold a special election to fill kerry's seat, which provokes this question. >> would you be running again in the special election? >> there's no vacancy that i'm aware of and we'll see what happens. >> with elizabeth warren poised to be sworn in in january, today, the scott brown for senate campaign 2.0 got everything it could hope for from john mccain, lindsey graham from john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte after their meeting with ambassador rice. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than before. >> i'm more troubled today. >> senator mcc
john kerry are much more focused on the fit for the state department because that is of course what he oversees on his committee. they're not as focused on that. the problem in massachusetts is that scott brown did just spend >>> welcome to "the ed show" from new york. president obama is using every tool in the toolbox to protect the middle class. it is starting to work. this is the ed show. >>> if we can get a few house republicans to agree as well, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. i've got to repeat. i have got a pen. >> a major republican says he is ready to take the president's deal on taxes. house speaker, john boehner, is not happy. >> hell, no, you can't. >> anti-tax crusader, grover norquist attacking the wives of republican congressman? >> i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than two years. >> tonight, lee saunders on the grassroots blast to pass the middle class tax cuts. >> small business owner, lou krantz, on his meeting with the president. congressman, steve israel, on the democratic momentum on the fiscal cliff. plu
. tonight, leader pelosi joins me for an exclusive interview. >>> senator john kerry like you have never seen him before. the statesman from massachusetts scolds the radical right after senate republicans block a u.n. treaty on rights for the disabled because they are concerned about home schooling. you don't want to miss this tape. >>> plus my interview with ohio senator sherrod brown on what looks like a massive win for progressives and elizabeth warren. >>> then senator debbi stabenow of michigan on the latest in the fight to end republican obstruction. and the people creating petitions on the white house website are getting more and more creative. we'll tell you what the new petition to build a death star. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. democrats are determined to extend the middle class tax cuts before the end of the year. that's the bottom line. party leaders and members are all on the same page. president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top
of shame in the united states senate. this was such a day of shame and sadness. john kerry in his role as chairman of the senate foreign relations committee was leading the senate as the floor manager of a treaty. on the other side of the aisle, the senior republican on the foreign relations committee rose, not in opposition but in support of that same treaty. richard lugar and john kerry got 61 votes in the senate today for ratification of a united nations treaty on the rights of the disabled, which was modeled on a law passed by the senate. 22 years ago, the americans with disabilities act. in effect, it was a vote to export american law to the 155 nations around the world that have signed this treaty. a treaty that has already been ratified by 126 of those countries, including the united kingdom, france, germany, china, russia has ratified it. now you can pass anything in the senate with 60 votes. except treaties which require 66. a two-thirds majority. every democrat voted for the treaty and only eight republicans voted for the treaty. 38 republicans disgraced themselves and disgra
is a rohde scholar, a combatant for democrats including john kerry and now her rival to become secretary of state. and bill clinton's state department, she was in charge of african policy including controversial decisions on sudan. today republicans also blamed her for another security failure, the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania 14 years ago and politics can be personal. in the 2008 obama campaign, rice ridiculed john mccain for wearing a flak jacket on a baghdad walking tour while claiming iraq was safer. >> that was andrea mitchell reporting. >>> as most people focus on susan rice and john kerry as the frontrunners for the secretary of state job, a new report suggest that's former republican senator chuck hagel is also vetted by the white house for a potential security post. >>> overseas, egyptian president mohamed morsi is expected to call for unity while addressing his nation today. tension still very high after he issued an edict that will give him sweeping power above the reach of judicial review until a new constitution is adopted. they're rushing to finish a new draft of
john kerry. rice is making the rounds on capitol hill these days meeting with lawmakers who are critical of the comments that she made about the terror attack in benghazi that killed four americans. those meetings did not go very well or so it would seem from the comments from senators afterwards. senator kerry seems to be taking a different approach, staying out of the spotlight. asking supporters not to overtly lobby on his behalf. who is likely to get the job? angela mcglowan, fox news political analyst, marjorie clifton a arm toer consultant with the obama campaign and principal with clifton consulting. interesting thing, if there are to be, let's say president obama nominates susan rice and she is said to be his first choice. the guy who leads the hearings on the foreign affairs committee would be senator kerry. >> yeah, no, it is the irony of it all. kerry strategy staying under the radar probably is a good one. the only thing i think would be a barrier to susan rice's nomination would be the benghazi coverage one could argue is pretty unfair given all she did read a u
into government-run, that is public schools. senator john kerry joins us to cut through the nonsense. >>> also tonight, the simpson's mr. burns gives usña rich man' look at the fiscal cliff. >> think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver, he'll drive you over a cliff. >> that's an aside show and this is "hardball," the place for politics. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> never too early for pollsters to start head to 2016. guess who's looking very strong? hillary clinton. aç new abc news/washington pos poll say they would back hillary clinton. it's helpful no one has run a campaign against clinton for the past fou
as an organization. >>> plus, the interesting title senator john mccain gave senator kerry a couple of hours ago at an event. we will play you the exchange. >>> it's the hillary clinton tribute video creating a lot of political buzz today. >> you've been one of the best secretaries of state in american history. finally, hillary, a lot has been said about our relationship, and here's what i know. you haven't been just one of my closest partners but a great friend. >> you can join our conversation on twitter. find us @tamronhall a anand and @newsnation. ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift
rice in her statement, she voiced support for john kerry as an alternative. listen to what she said. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> interesting. how much self-interest is at play here? if kerry were to get that job, republicans could pick up his senate seat, right? >> that is correct. remember, scott brown picked up the kennedy seat in massachusetts and he lost it to elizabeth warren in the last election. so there is that scenario that if john kerry were to get that post, then that opens it up again for scott brown to pick up that seat. a couple of things. first of all, it's widely known out there that john kerry wants the job. but, of course, you know, the story we've all been talking about that susan rice appears to be above on that list. that's the first thing. all of this speculation about who could get that job and, you know, if he got that job then this person could pick up the seat in massachusetts, it really is all just sort of hypothetical here. the president has not put forward a nomination yet. there's a
, some worry it may be stretched out now to early next week, senator john kerry desperately wants the job, has stayed very, very quiet. yesterday he exchanged good natured ribbing with senator john mccain at a news conference called for support of a u.n. treaty to support those with disabilities around the world. mccain started it off. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. [ laughter ] >> thank you very much, mr. president. [ laughter ] this is what happens when you get too loose. >> kerry and mccain are working together on the effort to persuade their senate colleagues to ratify the convention on the rights of persons with disabilities. as we discussed in the show yesterday, the treaty has run into opposition from more conservative members of the republican party. think of it as two wings of the party inside their isolationists and those who are just anti-u.n. even as they are internationalists. simply others that don't believe the u.n. should sign on as party to any united nations convention and because a two-thirds super majority is rard to ratify a treaty, that opposition means it wi
john kerry, the road to confirmation will look quite a bit different. >> john kerry came within a whisker of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor. i don't have anything in his ba background like this tragedy in benghazi that would make me r l really want to carefully examine the whole situation. >> now one problem for mccain and graham as they prepare to wage this fight with the white house, they lost their third amigo, gave them bipartisan credibility. joe lieberman acted yesterday as a character witness for susan rice, telling reporters on the hill that he supports her. >> i would not feel that her appearances and anything she said on those sunday morning talk shows september 16 would disqua disqualify her for appointment to any other office. >> rice defended herself in a statement following her meetings writing, quote, while we certainly wish we had had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack as is often the case the intelligence assessment has evolved. we didn't intend to mislead the american people at any stage in the proce
susan rice and john kerry. you can look at the politics on either way. boy you can't back down on this opposition, on the other hand, is this a fight he wants to have? >> to have a nomination fight over secretary of state is really an unusual and shocking thing. and so, i think that, probably in the end, he doesn't do it. but i do think that it is -- but he, again, he put her in this position and then -- then she gets the opposition and then he says, well, i can't name you. it's unfair. maybe in the end, he realizes that. >> well, i don't think we should link whether or not she -- what happened in benghazi and whether she gets the nomination. i would hate to conclude that the reason she doesn't get that nomination is because of this stuff that just happened. they're not necessarily connected. i just want to -- >> talk radio is just full of benghazi. it is a big issue. >> which is amazing to me. in 1982, we lost 241 marines in lebanon and the country came around president reagan, you didn't see all of this partisan bickering -- >> wait. wait a minute. >> -- we came together and
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